OGDEN, Utah -- A Utah mother and father have a serious warning for parents everywhere: Beware of a scam called "virtual kidnapping."
Last week, Jeff Weber was driving his work vehicle when his cellphone rang from an unknown number. He did not answer. But then it rang again with the same unknown number. He answered it.
“I heard a young girl crying saying, ‘Daddy, daddy I'm scared,’ then the kid voice went away and a man came on and told me he kidnapped my daughter and if I ever wanted to see her again I would not tell anybody or hang up,” Weber told Fox 13. “The guy sounded serious.”
Weber asked him questions about his daughter like what was she wearing to to let him talk with her again. The man on the other end refused to have the girl speak with him on the phone again.
“It scared me to death. The guy says, 'you know I'll kill her. You'll never see her again. You'll be paying for a funeral,’” Weber said.
Weber did what he could to try to discretely get in touch with his wife, LeeAnn Weber, to confirm their 13-year-old daughter was safe at school. Weber was at work so he quietly told his co-workers to call.
“It was pretty tense. I was trying to use a phone. I couldn't even text my wife. The secretary let me borrow her phone and I couldn't even text message. Like, I was shaking so bad I couldn't push the buttons. It was so bad," Weber said.
Weber managed to work with his co-workers and confirm with his wife that she made it to their daughter’s school, along with their daughter’s maternal mother too, and were all there physically with their daughter.
That meant Weber could hang up with the alleged kidnapper -- finally confirming it was a scam.
“It's just evil. You call somebody and tell them you have the most important thing in the world to them," Weber said.
“It's the most terrifying thing that a parent can go through to think that someone has your child and you don't know where they are,” LeeAnn Weber said. “You feel helpless.”
They called the police and filed a report. The Salt Lake City Police Department said the problem is finding the virtual kidnappers is almost impossible.
A few days later, on Saturday, Weber got the same unknown caller on his cellphone. LeeAnn Weber was with him at home and she recorded the call.
“It was nearly the exact same man with the same scam,” Weber said.
Alleged child kidnapped: “Dad I’m scared.”
Weber: "You’re scared?"
Scammer: “Tell her to stop crying, give me the phone. Hello, Jeff? “I just kidnapped your daughter, you already heard her, are you going to help her out, yes or no?”
Scammer: “You want to help her? I don’t want you doing nothing. Don’t call the police or tell anybody else about what’s going on, all right? If I hear you tell somebody, I’m going to hang up on you and you’re never going to hear from her again.”
Weber knew not to fall for this and told the man how he felt about his fake kidnapping calls.
Weber said the man told him, “Fine, I will just find somebody else to rob!”
That is when Weber realized the scammer could prey on another family and they might fall for it, and pay the scammer the money they demand.
“Keep the caller on the phone as long as possible," Weber said. "Say whatever you have to, to not hang up, and find a way to also call police and call your son or daughter to make sure they are safe and where they are supposed to be."
“It is a red flag when the scammer tells you not to call police. Call police,” police spokesman Greg Wilkins said. “The problem is these scammers know it is hard to locate them and hard to criminalize them when they fail to scam someone.”AlertMe